The Seduction Alternative

Hey mate,

Are you making the biggest mistake men make when it comes to attracting women?

I’ll keep this short and simple today.

The biggest mistake men make with women is ADDING IN.

Men who NATURALLY are attractive to women, and who have an easy time connecting with them, don’t ADD IN tons of bs.

Here’s a key: Every man I know who THINKS he has to learn something so he can approach, connect or be with a beautiful girl or woman has already made it too complicated without knowing it.

And the cosmic joke part of it is that men don’t realize they made it complicated, because they made it complicated on the inside.

They made it complicated unconsciously, now they think learning MORE “stuff to say and do” will help.

“No, learning stuff to say and pua strategies to live by might PERSUADE a woman to enjoy being around you, but it won’t help you authentically connect or help her authentically enjoy being with you.”

A huge key to having a girl enjoy YOU, is to simplify.

Can you simplify your “inner” on your own? Seriously, I doubt it.

I had Markos come in 2 years ago for a day of Private Training. Since I have a strong background in old school NLP, I didn’t bother teaching him stuff to do to women…. I just took the time to notice where his thinking and approach became too complicated.

Then I helped him simplify it. Done.

So get some help exiting your complex repetitive thinking patterns, and EXPERIENCE more.

Simplicity and Ease are big part of what you can get in our Seduction Alternative Program- How to Naturally Attract a Girl and Get a Life.

If you are ready for that, want to authentically connect with a girl (have her actually DIG YOU), and don’t enjoy the thoughts of being a Pick Up Artist - then get on the list or register TODAY for the next 10 week course!

Keep it simple, and enjoy the day,

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Mr. Twenty Twenty

The Ex Hostage - Professional Visionary formerly known as John Wingert

PS: I wrote a related article for NLP Live that has THREE tiny exercises that you might enjoy! Go check it out at: Click here - NLP Live!

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From the Mail bag!

Yo Twenty Twenty,

There is this girl I work with who I really have the hots for. She treats me like I am invisible, like every other girl I go after? Now what? I feel funny doing what the PUA crowd says to do, I just don’t feel right being manipulative with a girl. Help!

Bobby

(Name changed to protect the innocent. )

Yo Bobby,

Three quick thoughts which will transform your entire life.

First, forget the girls YOU want, just for now. Instead, take the time to notice the girls who are interested in you.

Most men who are treated like they are invisible walk into a room and don’t bother noticing who is interested in them. Men who do this immediately turn women off, and effectively are invisible from that point forward.

Stop projecting your “I want you beam” and turn your attention to noticing who is interested in you. Once you do that, pick from the women who are already interested in you. It’s like playing with loaded dice.

Next, let’s test the waters. Find out which girl is most responsive to you. Imagine being one of my “Grad” students. You walk into a room and see three women at a table. Take a moment and “ask inside” which woman is most interested and compatible with you.

My Grad Students always get a sign, because they are open to noticing it. Maybe she shifts her body, fluffs her hair, sometimes she even turns to look at him. If you want to have real fun, do this when they aren’t looking at you.

So take the time to read the signs!

Finally, take action. Be the kind of man who is interesting, who is approachable, and who is what women want.

Most men wait too long, and think to much. Now here is a huge key. I’m not just talking about walking up to and talking with the girl, I’m talking about your entire life.

Most men think too much and take too little action EVERYWHERE in their lives. The way they see themselves and the way they see the world has them fading into the background, thinking too much and being frustrated.

Come take a Seduction Alternative Course and experience how to approach life actively, discover how to dance more, and experience less inner and outer war.

And Remember too, YOU do have a choice. If you do what the PUA’s do, you’ll live a life of having to do way too much. Pretending to be what you aren’t.

On the other hand, you can have a life of Being Remarkable. You can experience what it takes to become a man who not only attracts women naturally, you can become the kind of man who looks forward to every day, enjoying the adventure, experiencing the wonder, and being a leader of both men and women.

More to come,

Mr. Twenty Twenty

The Professional Visionary Formerly known as John Wingert

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Hey mate,

“Stop denying yourself the opportunity to experience authentic connections with women! Stop settling for bragging rights and get a life!”

Imagine thinking that having seduction skills actually improves your life or makes YOU more attractive to women.

Look, using PUA skills and taking Seduction Courses, is like putting a band aids on bullet wound.

Sure, with PUA strategies you’ll make a woman jump through a hoop, and maybe even by using a process make her “fall in love” with… not you… she will fall in love with your methods….

But you won’t have her fall for you.

Your life really won’t improve all that much.

“…and someday, maybe in ten years, maybe ten minutes after she slams the door behind her, you will regret working your PUA moves on her. All alone, again.”

And you’ll be worse off than before you learned how to be a PUA.

Stop denying yourself the opportunity to experience authentic connections with women! Stop settling for bragging rights and get a life!

“Ever wonder why the PUA guys all have goofy nick names? On some deep level they hope they can put that identity behind them someday. Why not do it now?”

We are preparing up our next 10 week Seduction Alternative NOW, and ramping up our live weekend bootcamp in Austin Texas soon. So if you want in…

Register for our email list on the upper left hand corner of the page.

The In List - It’s the only way you will hear about the exclusive boot camp, where you learn and experience how to powerfully change your life and attract women - naturally - comfortably - and ethically.

Take action buckwheat! Don’t deny yourself the pleasure of authentically connecting with beautiful women and having them DIG YOU!

And have a great day!

Mr. Twenty Twenty

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Real quick Buckwheat,

If you think PUA status or skills will change that lonely feeling you feel inside, I have breaking news for you, PUA skills won’t.

PUA skills will get Willie wet, but they won’t quench your thirst for really having someone dig you - and PUA techniques won’t improve your inner world either.

Maybe that’s why so many PUA guys get goofy. Nuts. Unstable.

Anyhoo….

If you want something deeper, if you want to transform your inner world so that your outer world includes more women naturally, along with real happiness and a sense of power and accomplishment, then register for the next Seduction Alternative Program - TODAY!

The 10 Week TSA Program will rock your world. Right now I’m in week 7 of our current 10 week course, and it is totally life transforming, for me as well as the guys taking the course.

Because really connecting to people, women at the bars or supermarkets…. and really connecting to the other men in your Seduction Alternative course changes your life.

Creating a fake connection doesn’t change your life. Again, PUA stuff does get Willie wet, but it will never quench your real thirst.

See you in the course,

Mr. Twenty Twenty

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The Professional Visionary - Founder of The Seduction Alternative.

“Stop denying yourself the opportunity to experience authentic connections with women! Stop settling for bragging rights and get a life!”

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Hey mates,

So I get this email about The Seduction Alternative.

You know, the 10 Week training (and soon to be LIVE Weekend Warrior training) where the focus is ENTIRELY on YOU….

The Focus is Not on Doing things TO women.

The TSA premise is simple… And very powerful.

TSA is not about positive thinking or using patterns and strategies powerful men don’t need to use. TSA helps you develop real inner power and value, so you don’t have to do “The Game” of pretending to have value.

Get the out of your head Buckwheat…. and getting into her pants won’t be so damn important…. and connecting with her AUTHENTICALLY will be a breeze…. and win / win…

Another way to put it…. Get a life… Start living your life… And you will become more attractive to women.

(Did I mention getting into her pants won’t be such a big deal… )

And you won’t feel sub par…. and have to “run routines” and use strategies to connect…

Anyhooo…

With all that in mind…

How do you think I responded to “Max” when he asked, “How specifically do I train men to get laid…. what is my strategy…and what is the best response I have to a woman who disrespects me….”

(I’m wondering if max has listened to ANYTHING I have ever produced. )

Remember… if it becomes about you doing ANYTHING to the woman….

…You get lost / left out / of the flow…

And there is a heavy price to pay for that. Feeling inferior and having to game women is just part of the price.

“If you are ready to start attracting women by becoming more clear, powerful and authentic, register for our newsletter or sign up today for the next Seduction Alternative Course.”

Your entire life hangs in the balance. Take action buckwheat!

20/20 Professional Visionary - Ex Hostage
Formerly known as John Wingert

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Hey mate,

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Recently I was sharing stories with a 67 year old “Uncle” who has had many wonderful experiences with women.

Experiences that would make the PUA’s of today drool.

Uncle Richard wasn’t a PUA. His approach to life and women gave him far more flexibility and fun than you might be able to imagine.

Here is one you’ll love, and of course it fits right in with The Seduction Alternative.

“When I was 21 years old I went on a referral date. A referal is sort of like a blind date, but different, with far more fun!”

“A referral date is when one girl wants to be with you, not just for a night but maybe for a little while. And since she can’t, she sends you out on a date with her friend. Good times, good times indeed.”

“That referral date turned into one of the best years of my life.”

For Richard, it was 11 months of fun, partying, being playful, and 2 very memorable weekend vacations - all from ONE referral!

“All of that because that one woman saw I was worth it, she saw I was referable.”

Think about this, one woman wanted to be with Richard but couldn’t. So she introduced him to a friend, and they had more fun than you can imagine for 11 months.

I recently interviewed both women, the woman who wanted to be with Richard and the woman he spent an 11 incredible months with. Maybe someday I’ll share those details…. wow! I will tell you, they both still glowed, they actually blushed when I asked them about him. (How many women will remember you THAT fondly?)

Do you now see how being referable by women could be incredibly fun, change your game, transform your life?

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If you want to become referable, here are 3 questions you must be able to answer.

Ready?

1. Am I being me, or running a routine?

Concept: When she finds out the truth… about you will she want refer me to her best friend?

Too many men start getting lost in their bullshit and routines. Sometime during their seduction path, they lose both their real confidence and their true identity. They become hypnotized by their own bullshit, and deep inside know there has to be more to life than just this.

If you are running routines, sooner or later you will get tired of them, when you do, the women around you won’t respond to them, and you’ll be high and dry. You can learn how to let go of your bullshit, drop the routines, and start discovering how to be a much more interesting, powerful and dynamic you… and women will simply find you fascinating, attractive, and referable.

2. Am I interested in her or just interested in my end game?

Concept: The end game is great, but what ELSE are you missing out on?

I’m a guy, I’ll admit it, the end game rocks. But living for just the end game sucks and will burn you out in time. How many moments of HER are you passing by, since you are so short sighted, focused primarily on your end game.

The end game will be pleasurable, and of course it is the thing PUA’s love to brag about, but the moments you and her actually CONNECT will be those that will rock your world, those are the moments you’ll fondly look back upon, and enjoy. While you remember how good the end game was too. You need both. Nuff said.

3. Am I developing and discovering my real mystery, or just building a superficial mysterious image?

Concept: Real Attractive Men are men who live multifaceted lives with purpose, adventure, and play. Is what you share with the world and women really you, or just an image you are constructing to manipulate the ladies?

Your real mystery will intrigue you. Think about this. Is your life full of adventure and discovery? If your life isn’t interesting to you, it isn’t going to be interesting to the women you meet.

Become less interested in developing how you appear to others, you’ll begin to become even more interesting, powerful and dynamic.

So drop the bullshit and stop pretending.

Today is your call to action!

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The Seduction Alternative WILL improve your results with women, your “love life”.

How can I say this with such confidence?

Because The Seduction Alternative WILL improve and transform your ENTIRE life.

The Seduction Alternative is NOT just an approach to women, it’s an approach to living a much more powerful life.

As you become more truly interesting, confident, and multi faceted AND ALIVE… you will become more attractive.

And you’ll feel real power, enjoy real pleasure, and you’ll feel more alive than maybe you ever have.

And as a side note:

As you leave behind the games pua’s play, you’ll also leave behind the games women play.

Yes, I know some women play games too. As you grow out of yours, you’ll be able to spot theirs, so you won’t be playing any games anymore. You’ll be living life, attracting naturally more women who don’t want to play games, women who want to have fun and enjoy life. What is that worth? Priceless!

Time to register. Only a few slots remain. Another one just got filled this morning!

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Will you be one of the lucky ones, will you transform your life, enjoy some real fellowship, and take action?

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20/20 John Wingert

Factoid: Did you know that the average PUA pays for less than $137 of PUA his learning materials?

(Yes, I ask this question…. and I keep score… so does the universe.)

How do you think this effects their life, not just their success with women, but their entire life?

Deep inside we all know the short games - like how theft and pua strategies both lead to failure and depression.

“Short games prevent you from diving in, to committing to life, they prevent you from experiencing what life can truly give to you. Guess what Buckwheat, you are here, you have committed to life. So DIVE IN”

So you might as well commit to getting more INTO your life.

Remember:

Deep inside we all want to connect more completely with women.

Deep inside we all want to have fun, live a little of the wild side, and yet have someone we can relax with and enjoy.

Is your current approach to women getting you honestly closer to this, or in reality holding you back in life?

Ask yourself:

How could changing your approach to LIFE dramatically transform your world?

How could learning a new approach to life dramatically change how you
connect up with women?

There is only one way to find out.

Take the Seduction Alternative Plunge.

Dive in. Take a chance on you. You just might find that you are well worth it.

Do it today!

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From the Virtual Desk of 20/20
Formerly John Wingert - Reaching out into Seduction Space

Hey pick up artists, and men who are tired of that insecure scene,

I’ve been polling beautiful women in the Pittsburgh and Austin TX regions over the past 6 months. You’ll never guess what they find attractive. The list is below, and for the most part, it totally excludes the insecure pick up artist AT THEIR CORE.

Here is my quick thought, if you signed up for The 10 Week Seduction Alternative Course - Adventures in Authenticity, which starts in the first week of March, do you think your life would have more of these? I guarantee if you do the course, drop your need to seduce and hide behind “The Game” that it sure would.

The Top Ten Qualities women REALLY want in a man, by 20/20.

1. Honesty.

2. Authenticity.

3. Fun.

4. Confident.

5. Playful.

6. Strong - physically as well as emotionally.

7. Clean.

8. Willing to be himself.

9. Flirty - with her.

10. Not a game player.

Now here is a key, if all you want is a hummer, a quickie, something shallow, something that will distract you from your inner emptiness, exploring and developing those qualities probably is not going to interest you.

On the other hand, if you want something more, if you want to relate to women on multiple levels and not be a game player… Relate in a way where you can date, party or have a relationship then this course might be for you.

Only you know the depth of life you wish to enjoy.

Only you can create it.

But you need the right guidance, fellowship and tools to make it happen.

You know what to do!

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20/20 The Professional Visionary
Creator of The Seduction Alternative
Formerly known as John Wingert

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Hey mate,

Just a few thoughts here and a recording I think you will enjoy too.

What is life like for the 97 year old seduction guru?
The 97 Year Old Seduction Guru - Click to Listen

In this quick recording I ask you to project forward, just a bit, and enjoy.

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It will transform your world, totally change how you relate to women, and eliminate the need for you to do all that stuff…. stuff that long term separates you from reality… stuff that immediately takes away from your self esteem.

If you’ve been “a player” long enough you know what I mean. And you know there is a better way to enjoy both women and life.

Enjoy,

20/20 The Professional Visionary - The Rubber Chicken Seduction King

Formerly known as John Wingert

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Hey 20/20 What made you set up a site called “The Seduction
Alternative”?

Seems to be different from your usual approach.

Name Withheld
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Hey mate,

Thanks for the questions.

I’m going to put the PS first… then the quick answer….

PS: I have a few granddaughters. Someday, those girls will be with men…. they could be with authentic men…… men who have worked through their dumb shit….. men who are naturally fun, funny, and contributing to the world… or they could be with men who want to build more dumb shit into the world….

NOW… Here’s the quick version.

NLP can be used in a few primary ways.

One of them is to get other people to do things, like buy your stuff or give you a hummer. (The automobile, wink.)’

That’s fun, it can be useful, but it can become a huge trap, especially when the reward or goal is something powerful as sex and relationships…. I have seen way to many kool guys get stuck here….

So….

Another use for NLP is for personal growth.

Using NLP to engage personal growth is so rare nowdays, using NLP to transform your entire life, not by changing what people are doing on the outside, but by changing how YOU experience life on the inside.

Last night, for example, Carol and I were talking about “Peacocking” since it came up on the ning site.

Peacocking as they do it is bullshit, a substitute for something really kool.

Think about this, you can wear something “out there” to get attention….. which is basically one method of peacocking…. Attract the girl, get the response based on something external…. Or you can experience something so AUTHENTICALLY that you become hyper magnetic and alive.

Live a patterned life: A boa…. a line… a pattern… a anchor…. Anything but YOU.

OR

Live an authentic life. You can NOT DO BOTH.

That happened last night when the ash from my cigar fell off.

That does not sound like a big deal, but the authenticity that showed up IN ME…. it was priceless…. and it would have been one of those moments where my attractiveness and authenticity were to the max.

To try to duplicate THAT MOMENT which I was in the flow enough to allow….

With Peacocking…. let me paint my fingernails black and wear a boa….

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So the point of all this…..

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Either you engineer your entire life, and approach to life, feeling powerless deep inside, and building in a fake bullshit power level, like peacocking, or having to use so much nlp to make the girl feel good, instead of letting YOU show up…..

Letting YOU show up is so rare in our society…. anyhoo….

Or….

You use NLP to loosen up the grips all the bullshit patterns have on you… so you show up more…. and that invites them to show up more…. which invites you and them and others to show up more….

And at that point, any use of NLP for “them” to do something, is just for entertainment, and something you won’t be much interested in……

Because you are experiencing real power.

Whoo yah!

20/20 The Ex Hostage - Professional Visionary

Formerly known as John Wingert

PS: I have a few granddaughters. Someday, those girls will be with men…. they could be with authentic men…… men who have worked through their dumb shit….. men who are naturally fun, funny, and contributing to the world… or they could be with men who want to build more dumb shit into the world….

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From the mailbag,

Dear John,

I am a member of a number of a number PUA newsgroups. I need help!

The whole PUA community is to be filled with desperate men sleeping with as many women as they can SO THEY CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES. What can I do? I am tired of this! I get laid but I am not happy!

Name Withheld

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Hey mate,

People want two things…

1. They want techniques. It appears to make life simple.

2. They want techniques that they can see working in life.

If you can supply those, you’ll get rich on the net.

It’s the backbone of superficiality, the easy buck, and the PUA community.

Because….

“At first, most men would rather learn something to do, to make a chick jump through a hoop. Because it is fast and they can see it’s working. Even though long term it’s killing them.”

What we offer is a Personal Growth approach to transforming your ENTIRE life, women included. The Personal growth approach can be temporarily shocking, because it can upset your inner “apple cart” - but it does lead to transformation in the quality of your entire life.

So here is the fundamental choice:

You can learn some simple PUA stuff and get lucky…. that feels good, and it’s a quick fix…. or you can work a program that will change your life, your ENTIRE LIFE, and the quality of everything in it.

But you can’t do both. Here is the reason why:

Because if you want to do the PUA scene, you on some unconscious level have to believe that you NEED techniques, that you aren’t good enough, that you can’t deeply make yourself or a woman happy BEING YOU.

On the other hand…

If you decide on what we are doing, take the Personal Development Path, become more YOU and More Authentic, you will have to ADMIT that you have been going down a dumb path for a while… and it’s time for a change.

If you are ready for a change contact me for some personal coaching, or register for the February 10 week training. I appreciate you taking the time to reach out!

20/20 John Wingert

john@wingertgroup.com

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